dragonwolf 41
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Post by dragonwolf 41 on Mar 4, 2014 19:43:02 GMT
OK so i have just started getting good at drawing wolfs.. but i am a little bit ticked that i cant draw a wolf head good at all! i mean i got the body structure were i want it paws i just learned how to do them straight so i need some vids that can help me with this so plz help me! oh, and my the way look how good i am a drawing paws i love this pic that i just did see but if it looks cruddy to you then.. dont to much care just help me find a decent wolf head drawing vid for ms paint! oh and by the way this is jetta shes from a fanfic i am doing you know the ISO wolfs!
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Post by Adeen on Mar 5, 2014 3:26:28 GMT
Before doing any sort of posing and framework I think you should still work on your anatomy. Look at the animal you're drawing, how its muscles are toned in different parts of the body. Don't try too hard getting the shape perfect the first time, practice and each time stretch a little outside your comfort zone. From what I can see you've mainly comprised the wolf's shape out of the geometrical figures that are given in MS Paint or something. Do some sketches on paper of anatomical study before doing more digital.
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SlayerWolf
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Like Shsimu (She is in gravity lol such space)
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Post by SlayerWolf on Mar 5, 2014 10:38:38 GMT
You can use the SAI
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dragonwolf 41
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Post by dragonwolf 41 on Mar 5, 2014 17:21:01 GMT
sorry i only use MS paint and the reason why i only draw on MS paint is cuz i dont like what i draw on paper it look like it was drawn from 12 year old with very bad hand witting!
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Post by Wargle-Blargle on Mar 5, 2014 21:43:02 GMT
Try doing what SlayerWolf suggested, since Paint Tool SAI is free, you can practice even better! Also try what Adeen suggested, and work on your anatomy first, and try not to use geometric shapes (Ex. Circles, ovals, squares, even premade curves.) And by the way, everyone starts off drawing like "12 year old with very bad hand writing." Drawing all just a matter of practice, hun!
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dragonwolf 41
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Post by dragonwolf 41 on Mar 6, 2014 3:54:39 GMT
didn't i just say that i don't AND don't want to [and also cant] use any other drawing tool and also i have been practicing all the time i cant draw night fury's witch is something at i used to draw on paper and i did just draw a wolf on paper right now..it looks a little bit good but with out coloring it just looks bad....
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Post by Wargle-Blargle on Mar 6, 2014 5:45:14 GMT
We'll first off, there's no need to be so defensive, we are just trying to help And most of all, you can't keep using MS Paint as a drawing tool since it has a very limited range of tools and like I said before, you can't just suddenly be good or bad, in this case, at something. It takes /years/ of practice to get drawing right, and professional artists didn't become so overnight. So I'm going to repeat myself one last time, practice your anatomy and your drawing on your /own/ lines rather than predefined geometric shapes.
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Post by Haruki on Mar 6, 2014 6:04:28 GMT
sorry i only use MS paint and the reason why i only draw on MS paint is cuz i dont like what i draw on paper it look like it was drawn from 12 year old with very bad hand witting! You can still circumvent using a hand drawn sketch by using paint tools sai or gimp. I'm missing your logic here. It would greatly improve the outcome of your art. If you really and truly want help from others, maybe try being more open minded to what we say?
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Post by dragonwolf 41 on Mar 6, 2014 6:09:42 GMT
i know... i know.. but i have been doing this for half a year now.. so its not good.... as i thought it was...and i cant do any other paint tool cuz i cant and i don't want to sketch all of any thing another reason why it looks so bad.. but i work hard on it this is the only drawing that took me 3 and a half days...it might be dragon related but its my best work yet... i know it isn't Good either just like the rest but maybe i should give this up if i don't get any good reviews at all i was good at FH but maybe not here sorry if i wasted your time... with bad art.....
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Post by Haruki on Mar 6, 2014 8:04:04 GMT
There's no such thing as "bad art". Hell, look at some of the modernist examples. I'mjustsaying. But that's the nature of it. You try hard, work hard for a LONG time, and it feels like progress is slow. That's just how it goes. You could stop trying to improve and give up just because people aren't showering you with compliments. But then, you probably didn't have a drive if you give up that easily.
As for the sketching. Well, either wing it or you're sketching. There's not much in between. You. Don't. Have. To. Sketch. In. Paint Tools Sai.
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No. Just... no.
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Post by Husky on Mar 6, 2014 12:17:54 GMT
May I add something? I WOULD recommend anything but MS Paint but seeing as you have rejected that... Three times I won't mention it further. But I will agree with everything already said and further. You seem to not see the anatomy correctly. Nothing that is nature made is made of perfect geometric lines and shapes. It's okay to get a little messy with the lines! And as for the NightFuries well, I just did one for the first time and it took seven hours. Take your time. Do your best. Don't let people put you down for trying. And I'd suggest SKETCHING out lightly the geometric shapes then giving them a more realistic outline and going from there.
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Post by dragonwolf 41 on Mar 6, 2014 18:11:30 GMT
really i cant use any thing but MS paint but i do use the shapes and stuff with my art but the head isn't working out for me it just isn't but i am getting better at my paw work as you can see here but as i said the head really just dosnt work was you can tell here i guess i am just better at paws then at heads....
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ιмaderpycaтlover
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I really should make a biography, shouldn't I? xD (Even though i've been playing for months) derp.
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Post by ιмaderpycaтlover on Mar 6, 2014 18:50:34 GMT
But why can't you use anything else but MS paint? I suggest watching tutorials if you're really stuck and at least having a try instead of not bothering. Who knows, you using SAI could (and will) make you better at art. Just takes time. I used to think I was so bad at art (and jealous of some others, sshhh) but i've stopped being that way and just practiced and got on. Ya ain't gonna get better overnight as Wargle said. ^^ I even drew something that took an hour yet i'm proud of it (it's on the forum). So hope this helps? xD And if you /really/ can't after trying on SAI/Gimp then go back to MS paint and use paint brushes, and once you feel more confident, move back to SAI/Gimp.
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dragonwolf 41
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Post by dragonwolf 41 on Mar 6, 2014 22:35:42 GMT
like i said i cant use any of that beacus i dont want to bother with sketching and my mom dosnt want any thing else on this PC too much junk she says and i am just more comfortable with low stats on some stuff..there is an MS paint site but my mom wont let me got to it yet..
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Post by nether on Mar 7, 2014 0:08:53 GMT
I would consider getting a tablet if art is something you're really interested in ( if you don't already have one ). If you're going into digital art then it's good idea. My first tablet was a Genius Easypen and it was absolutely garbage but it was cheap and it got a lot done for me. Paying a little extra for a drawing tablet doesn't hurt and it's totally worth. I could definitely tell a significant change in my works after I changed to a Bamboo Create. It was totally worth my money. I suggest any tablet by wacom; www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_6?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=wacom%20tablet&sprefix=wacom+%2Celectronics%2C413&rh=i%3Aelectronics%2Ck%3Awacom%20tablet
Secondly, when you're trying to learn something like anatomy I would suggest just doodling. Experimenting with shapes and curves just by doodling you learn a lot. Also, before using any reference it would be a good idea to practice what you're trying to draw a couple of times before looking at any references. If you get it wrong several times before looking at any reference, tutorial or guide you'll learn how not to make the same mistakes. Something else I gotta say is that don't use the line tool as much. I understand MS paint doesn't have like any stability when you go freehand but using the line tool is a good thing to get away from. Also don't forget to practice traditionally too!
Going 100% MSpaint is hard so if you are interested in others programs I would suggest trying Paint Tool Sai but MSpaint can make some pretty legit things sooooo... Keep at it : )
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Post by Wargle-Blargle on Mar 7, 2014 0:14:56 GMT
Hun, although I highly doubt that your mom won't let you download SAI, since its so small, I can't stress these things enough: 1) Use.Another.Drawing.Program. MS paint is one of the worst things you can use to draw, to put it bluntly. 2) Use.Your.Own.Lines.Not.Shapes. Despite how man times you say it and turn our words around, you're not getting anywhere with just circles, squares, and curves that have no originality. 3) Practice.Anatomy. You think that because you use geometric shapes will help you with your anatomy? It does not. 4) Don't.Twist.Our.Words. We never ever once said your art is bad/sucks, but we say that it won't improve if you arent open minded to what we say and don't take our advice.
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Post by Adeen on Mar 7, 2014 2:57:19 GMT
MS Paint can be a great tool if you really know how to use it, you don't get to use layers so it's kind of just like painting with acrylics or for just fill-bucketing pixels. Either way until you learn how to really use it, listen to what other people suggest. Don't got a way for a digital program at least not for a while? Traditional is the way to go. You can't get any pen pressure with MS Paint, and you need that in order to help get yourself the shapes down and how the physical forms of what you're trying to draw work. You asked for criticism now eat it.
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dragonwolf 41
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Post by dragonwolf 41 on Mar 7, 2014 5:01:36 GMT
i didn't not say criticism i just said can some one help me find a how to draw a wolf head MS paint only and that's it but i really do use shapes for really the paws and the head at times but in all its hard to do this plus i am using the curves on MS paint than the tiny pen or any this else.. plus:its FH all over again i have a big put down but where will it take me now.. and PS: she said absolutely nothing plus i don't know what SAI means witch i need to know if i am going to see the art styles of it and see if i my self would like it or say way to much work
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ιмaderpycaтlover
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I really should make a biography, shouldn't I? xD (Even though i've been playing for months) derp.
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Post by ιмaderpycaтlover on Mar 7, 2014 18:22:11 GMT
SAI is a painting program, like MS paint but much, much better. Using MS paint with shapes to do a wolf head is near impossible without it looking strange. You do not need to sketch for painting programs, unless you mean a light drawing then another layer where you go over it. But really, you need to do that anyway unless you can draw something accurate without any errors and planning etc. And if you must stick with MS paint then don't use shapes! Use the paintbrushes at least. v.v
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Post by dragonwolf 41 on Mar 7, 2014 20:28:40 GMT
the paint brushes when ever i color then in and leave a back ground all ways have white pixels sticking out of them thats why i use pen then i use curves to get the right shape i want and i just looked at the SAI paint but i dont think i can use it just yet but its a fine to me i have to asked the PC warden if she will aloud this...
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