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Post by RakshaWw on Mar 5, 2013 11:38:39 GMT
I was going to go ahead and do this but I want all of your opinions first. Of course this would require a lot of work (for me <<) but I was thinking...
Since we now have Pets, Items AND skills NPCs, the only thing all prey should/need to drop is medals.
If this goes through, the drop rates will be changed for every prey and not all the same like it currently is. Boss prey will drop a bronze medal after every kill and also have a chance to drop silver and golds but not as much as bronze. Praise prey will only prop bronze uncommonly. Normal preys medal drop rates will differ depending on how much HP they have and how hard they hit.
I will be asking(bugging :3) Myz to edit the Drawpoint code so it's a 'plant/herb' and when people pick them up they get something (not a medal) that they can use to get skills from the skills NPC.
Comment on this thread if you're also okay with all pets being made untameable. If people would still like prey to be tameable and not just brought from the Prey NPC, it'll be made so no prey drop tames and the only way to get them is from the Skills NPC. If you're all okay with prey only being able to be made pets by buying them from the NPC, all pets will become untameable.
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ZombieKitteh
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Post by ZombieKitteh on Mar 5, 2013 20:07:19 GMT
Can we comment here? o^o I'm conflicted.. If the medal drop rate would change to be more common I'd be more then ok with it. But I don't feel like collecting medals for three hours to get an item I can normally get in 30 minutes or so. You know? I'm ok with pets being NPC bought only though- I always found taming to be really troublesome anyways. x)
Medals tend to take up a lot of room in my stash too. Will the stash be growing in max capacity maybe? Unless it already has since I last played regularly (Before February).
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Post by Torture.Is.Sexy on Mar 5, 2013 22:27:23 GMT
You do bring up a really good point on the items and the capacity levels.
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Post by classique on Mar 5, 2013 23:39:55 GMT
I wish there was a turn base system to engage that way loot was a bit different.
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Post by RakshaWw on Mar 6, 2013 4:29:38 GMT
medal drop rate will of course go up
Voting will close this Friday and if 'yes' has the highest votes to change the system, the changes will be done by Sunday night
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Post by ActualHannibalCannibalPamuya on Mar 6, 2013 14:54:20 GMT
I voted No.
Reasoning: Skills: I don't know about others but I don't much like the idea of having to buy all your skills instead of earning them. Even if the skills weren't expensive, I just feel like... I don't know... They're not really skills then and I feel like maybe it would be inconvenient for some. I also feel like there wouldn't be a need for hunting at all. So there would be no use for pets or skills at all if you wouldn't get anything from the animals.
Items: I personally love when an animal drops an item that it doesn't usually. I have a little pride for being able to get it. Even just attacking animals to see what they might drop is fun for me. I just don't feel like the items would feel like anything but a dead prop if there wasn't anything behind your ownership of it. That's just me. I really like that you can buy items from the NPC's but I really don't want it to be shop exclusive. Again, there would be no use for hunting is the animals wouldn't drop a thing.
Pets/Prey: If you had no use for hunting, there would be no use for pets other than to look pretty. If you got a boss or something really strong, there really wouldn't be anything to do with it. Please don't make prey untamable via skills. It would just negate EVERYTHING about having prey animals. Even if they would sometimes drop medals, the drop rate would decrease so there is less likelyhood that you will even get the things you need to buy pets, items, and such. Prey wouldn't be totally useless but only by a tiny bit.
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Post by Smokey on Mar 6, 2013 15:17:05 GMT
I voted No.Reasoning:Skills: I don't know about others but I don't much like the idea of having to buy all your skills instead of earning them. Even if the skills weren't expensive, I just feel like... I don't know... They're not really skills then and I feel like maybe it would be inconvenient for some. I also feel like there wouldn't be a need for hunting at all. So there would be no use for pets or skills at all if you wouldn't get anything from the animals. Items: I personally love when an animal drops an item that it doesn't usually. I have a little pride for being able to get it. Even just attacking animals to see what they might drop is fun for me. I just don't feel like the items would feel like anything but a dead prop if there wasn't anything behind your ownership of it. That's just me. I really like that you can buy items from the NPC's but I really don't want it to be shop exclusive. Again, there would be no use for hunting is the animals wouldn't drop a thing. Pets/Prey: If you had no use for hunting, there would be no use for pets other than to look pretty. If you got a boss or something really strong, there really wouldn't be anything to do with it. Please don't make prey untamable via skills. It would just negate EVERYTHING about having prey animals. Even if they would sometimes drop medals, the drop rate would decrease so there is less likelyhood that you will even get the things you need to buy pets, items, and such. Prey wouldn't be totally useless but only by a tiny bit. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Post by RakshaWw on Mar 6, 2013 15:29:02 GMT
They can keep giving skills I don't mind that xD
Prey will still hit as hard and have as much life as they currently have so it'll be just as hard to kill them and pets help kill them
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Post by ActualHannibalCannibalPamuya on Mar 6, 2013 15:33:26 GMT
Prey will still hit as hard and have as much life as they currently have so it'll be just as hard to kill them and pets help kill them But they wouldn't really be worth it if prey didn't do a thing but fight back.
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Post by RakshaWw on Mar 6, 2013 15:38:42 GMT
they're the only things that give medals XD
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Post by ActualHannibalCannibalPamuya on Mar 6, 2013 15:43:31 GMT
Then I think people would just go for the weaker prey so it's faster and easier. They may not drop silvers or golds but they can still trade them in for the higher ranked medals much easier than hunting the stronger animals for -maybe- a higher medal.
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Post by RakshaWw on Mar 6, 2013 15:44:58 GMT
The drop rates will be carefully listed so it'd be just as hard to get 10 bronze as 1 silver etc
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Post by ActualHannibalCannibalPamuya on Mar 6, 2013 15:49:32 GMT
It still makes it easier to go after the normal prey even though the drop rate is lower. That's what I was saying :/
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Post by ZombieKitteh on Mar 6, 2013 22:42:56 GMT
Pam brings up a good point. :x
I like that prey drops skills and I feel they should keep doing that. Like I said though I never really did enjoy taming pets, so that concept is totally ok with me. On another note I feel there could be a way to implement the new system but keeping some prey item drops. Like bosses maybe could still drop some of the more rarer and harder to obtain items? It'd still give people a reason to go after stronger prey and if they're too lazy they can just- buy it.
And I'm still curious if stash space will be addressed to handle storing medals better.
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Post by Smokey on Mar 6, 2013 22:55:03 GMT
Yes stash capacity will be increased.
But yeah, this system would just make people lazy.
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Post by Zydrate on Mar 7, 2013 0:29:08 GMT
I dont know..I liked the idea of not buying the skills (So then you can save to actually buy items) and I liked the idea of having to go out and actually tame a pet your self rather than just buying it..it makes it feel more...like its yours because you worked to get it, same with a lot of the items, I feel really proud and joyful if I finally get that one item that I have been killing birds all day to get. Its also really fun to band together with people, friends and even people you only just met! To help find this one item that is needed, it brings people together over team work rather than just buying things to out do each other and pushing away based on how your character looks....
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Post by VarceVix on Mar 7, 2013 2:22:17 GMT
Nuh-uh.
I liked the idea of going out and taming the prey animals. It's much funner than just buying the pet like in other games, and you don't need to spend hours trying to get the right amount of medals by compiling a huge amount of the lousy bronze medals. They're like pennies, unwanted most of the time. [ Unless you've almost got ten of them, then it's more welcomed. I'm okay with them collecting a little bit in my stash so that maybe they'll eventually add up to a silver medal, but I do not want to have to rely on them for everything. ]
Imagine how totally dull it will be when all a humongous boss animal drops is a bronze medal. Eugh.
And about switching to having the prey animals only drop medals; no. I do not think it would be a good idea. Some people don't want to have to go to the item store and do some boring transaction that may-or-may-not work, they want to go out and work for their prize! I'm fine with the NPC's still being there, it's just I don't want the trading-in method to be the only way to get the items I want.
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Post by Torture.Is.Sexy on Mar 7, 2013 3:08:46 GMT
Honestly I think if you're gonna do this system- do it, but don't remove the other options.
Don't make a boss just drop a bronze- that would be... Just... UGH!!
And let alone /I/ for one enjoy hunting once and a while- maybe again buying some is okay with me, but the entire time? Nty. D:
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Post by Smokey on Mar 7, 2013 3:19:31 GMT
medal drop rate will of course go up Voting will close this Friday and if 'yes' has the highest votes to change the system, the changes will be done by Sunday nightI'm just wondering if you'll still do it if more than half don't want it.
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Post by RakshaWw on Mar 7, 2013 5:02:04 GMT
Making people vote no doesn't count and yes majority rules but there has been something else decided that i will announce later so i'm locking this for now and since yes got the most normal votes we'll lean over to making medals and stuff more common
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